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	<title>Comments on: Incestuous Marriage</title>
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	<description>Cheating on the Kobayashi Maru since 2001</description>
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		<title>by: mike hollihan</title>
		<link>http://www.ficml.org/jemimap/wordpress/2004/02/28/incestuous-marriage/#comment-518</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2004 02:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Oops. A link to a great analysis of the decline in the "meaning" of marriage since the Sixties and what it means to gay marriage is here:
http://www.donaldsensing.com/2004_02_01_archive.html#107739594785103035
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops. A link to a great analysis of the decline in the &#8220;meaning&#8221; of marriage since the Sixties and what it means to gay marriage is here:<br />
<a href="http://www.donaldsensing.com/2004_02_01_archive.html#107739594785103035" rel="nofollow">http://www.donaldsensing.com/2004_02_01_archive.html#107739594785103035</a>
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		<title>by: mike hollihan</title>
		<link>http://www.ficml.org/jemimap/wordpress/2004/02/28/incestuous-marriage/#comment-517</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2004 02:42:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>More interesting thinking. I don't agree about non-cousin incest being next. It makes great headlines, but its not that common. There was some story mentioned on talk radio Thursday about some guy who just got out of prison for having married is daughter and was alredy violating probation by shacking up with her in local motels.

But, to quote you, "if marriage is a contract between two people." Who says a contract must *only* be between two people/parties? Again, there has been, and still is today, a history of polygamy. If we reduce, through gay marriage and before that through no-fault divorce, all marriage to contracts, then widening to multiparty contracts is a much smaller step.

BTW, haven't the very rich always encouraged their progeny to marry within the larger tribe? I seem to recall that FDR and Eleanor were cousins, for example.

Other points: IIRC correctly from my days raising tropical fish, to get the traits you wanted in your fish, you mated the father to his daughter and then his grand-daughter. I think it goes similarly in most animal husbandry, no? And I also STR that some study done within the past few years shows that human-cousin marriage is much less of a danger than once presumed. Not only that, but vastly improved medicine and abortion make the issue of issue much less of a concern, don't they?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More interesting thinking. I don&#8217;t agree about non-cousin incest being next. It makes great headlines, but its not that common. There was some story mentioned on talk radio Thursday about some guy who just got out of prison for having married is daughter and was alredy violating probation by shacking up with her in local motels.</p>
<p>But, to quote you, &#8220;if marriage is a contract between two people.&#8221; Who says a contract must *only* be between two people/parties? Again, there has been, and still is today, a history of polygamy. If we reduce, through gay marriage and before that through no-fault divorce, all marriage to contracts, then widening to multiparty contracts is a much smaller step.</p>
<p>BTW, haven&#8217;t the very rich always encouraged their progeny to marry within the larger tribe? I seem to recall that FDR and Eleanor were cousins, for example.</p>
<p>Other points: IIRC correctly from my days raising tropical fish, to get the traits you wanted in your fish, you mated the father to his daughter and then his grand-daughter. I think it goes similarly in most animal husbandry, no? And I also STR that some study done within the past few years shows that human-cousin marriage is much less of a danger than once presumed. Not only that, but vastly improved medicine and abortion make the issue of issue much less of a concern, don&#8217;t they?
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