Comments on: The Disease that Dare Not Speak its Name http://www.ficml.org/jemimap/wordpress/2004/04/26/the-disease-that-dare-not-speak-its-name/ Cheating on the Kobayashi Maru since 2001 Tue, 12 May 2026 06:47:20 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.11 by: Jemima http://www.ficml.org/jemimap/wordpress/2004/04/26/the-disease-that-dare-not-speak-its-name/#comment-540 Tue, 27 Apr 2004 18:09:08 +0000 http://www.ficml.org/jemimap/wordpress/2004/04/26/the-disease-that-dare-not-speak-its-name/#comment-540 I don't think a chronic infection is the answer. The scientific article gave a positively spooky case for infection-induced changes in the schizophrenic brain long before onset of symptoms. Once the brain is altered, there's no going back. Another interesting idea in the article was that maternal infections caused Turner's syndrome (XO) and certain other cases of whole chromosomes being misplaced. So when I say that homosexuals aren't born that way, I mean it in a strictly evolutionary sense. They could in fact be born that way due to genetic changes in the original egg or somatic damage in the womb. That could explain a strong maternal link, though I haven't heard of one. I don’t think a chronic infection is the answer. The scientific article gave a positively spooky case for infection-induced changes in the schizophrenic brain long before onset of symptoms. Once the brain is altered, there’s no going back.

Another interesting idea in the article was that maternal infections caused Turner’s syndrome (XO) and certain other cases of whole chromosomes being misplaced. So when I say that homosexuals aren’t born that way, I mean it in a strictly evolutionary sense. They could in fact be born that way due to genetic changes in the original egg or somatic damage in the womb. That could explain a strong maternal link, though I haven’t heard of one.

]]> by: Jemima http://www.ficml.org/jemimap/wordpress/2004/04/26/the-disease-that-dare-not-speak-its-name/#comment-539 Tue, 27 Apr 2004 18:01:05 +0000 http://www.ficml.org/jemimap/wordpress/2004/04/26/the-disease-that-dare-not-speak-its-name/#comment-539 No one mentioned Kinsey in the articles I read, probably because better data has come along since his unrepresentative samples. For example, male rape in prisons is not the work of homosexuals - see the Human Rights Watch report at http://www.hrw.org/reports/2001/prison/ for more information. The Kinsey scale does not fall on a normal curve, even according to his suspect numbers, which were: 4-6% exclusively homosexual (6 on his scale), 5% <i>total</i> for 4 and 5 on the scale, and 8% at 3, the bisexual midpoint of his scale. I've seen some slightly different numbers, but they show the same suspicious dropoff for 4 and 5 on the Kinsey scale. Not fitting a normal curve means that (male) homosexuality isn't just the tail end of a range of sexual behaviors. I'm guessing it's more likely that bisexuality is the tail end of either the range of homosexual or of heterosexual behaviors. In either case there are still more homosexuals than genetics alone can account for. No one mentioned Kinsey in the articles I read, probably because better data has come along since his unrepresentative samples. For example, male rape in prisons is not the work of homosexuals - see the Human Rights Watch report at http://www.hrw.org/reports/2001/prison/ for more information.

The Kinsey scale does not fall on a normal curve, even according to his suspect numbers, which were: 4-6% exclusively homosexual (6 on his scale), 5% total for 4 and 5 on the scale, and 8% at 3, the bisexual midpoint of his scale. I’ve seen some slightly different numbers, but they show the same suspicious dropoff for 4 and 5 on the Kinsey scale.

Not fitting a normal curve means that (male) homosexuality isn’t just the tail end of a range of sexual behaviors. I’m guessing it’s more likely that bisexuality is the tail end of either the range of homosexual or of heterosexual behaviors. In either case there are still more homosexuals than genetics alone can account for.

]]> by: mike hollihan http://www.ficml.org/jemimap/wordpress/2004/04/26/the-disease-that-dare-not-speak-its-name/#comment-538 Tue, 27 Apr 2004 17:58:19 +0000 http://www.ficml.org/jemimap/wordpress/2004/04/26/the-disease-that-dare-not-speak-its-name/#comment-538 "Are bisexuals homosexuals with het leanings, or heterosexuals with homo leanings?" Mild, chronic infection? ;-) Jemima, I seem to recall a study that showed that homosexuality tended to follow a matrilineal route? That is, that it was passed down through mothers? How would that fit in with the "disease" theory? “Are bisexuals homosexuals with het leanings, or heterosexuals with homo leanings?”

Mild, chronic infection? ;-)

Jemima, I seem to recall a study that showed that homosexuality tended to follow a matrilineal route? That is, that it was passed down through mothers? How would that fit in with the “disease” theory?

]]> by: Lori http://www.ficml.org/jemimap/wordpress/2004/04/26/the-disease-that-dare-not-speak-its-name/#comment-537 Tue, 27 Apr 2004 04:45:11 +0000 http://www.ficml.org/jemimap/wordpress/2004/04/26/the-disease-that-dare-not-speak-its-name/#comment-537 You left out the <a href="http://www.kinseyinstitute.org/resources/ak-hhscale.html">Kinsey scale</a> - it ain't a sheep-or-goat matter, or so sayeth Kinsey. Are bisexuals homosexuals with het leanings, or heterosexuals with homo leanings? You left out the Kinsey scale - it ain’t a sheep-or-goat matter, or so sayeth Kinsey.

Are bisexuals homosexuals with het leanings, or heterosexuals with homo leanings?

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